In the second episode of Between the Lines, host Urszula Gacek welcomes former U.S. Ambassador to Poland, Mark Brzezinski, for a thoughtful and personal conversation.
Recorded amid one of the most turbulent periods in recent European history, this episode examines the practice of diplomacy under extraordinary pressure. It focuses on Ambassador Brzezinski’s mission in Poland, the opening phase of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, and the strategic decisions surrounding evacuation, security, and allied solidarity.
“I use the term humanitarian power to define Poland,” Brzezinski says, reflecting on how the country’s role and image in the West were fundamentally reshaped after the start of Russia’s full-scale war against Ukraine.
Between the Lines is a new interview series hosted by Urszula Gacek, featuring extended, in-depth conversations with leaders, thinkers, activists, and authors. The focus is on context, continuity, and what is often left unsaid in public debate.
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