As Péter Magyar visits Poland for high-level talks with Prime Minister Donald Tusk and President Karol Nawrocki, the future of Europe’s nationalist right is increasingly uncertain.
On this episode of On The Record, Adam Jasser speaks with Jacques Rupnik, Professor of International Relations at Sciences Po, about the possible end of Viktor Orbán’s illiberal experiment and what may come next.
Can Hungary dismantle an illiberal system without using illiberal methods? Could Donald Tusk’s experience in Poland become a roadmap for Magyar? And how will Europe’s political landscape evolve in a post-Orbán era?
Rupnik argues that European nationalists can no longer count on Donald Trump as a source of inspiration and protection. With Giorgia Meloni emerging as perhaps the last major figure capable of uniting Europe’s nationalist right, a new political chapter may already be beginning.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction: Trump-aligned right, no longer attractive for Europeans – the Orbán case
03:35 Is Orbánism over? Dismantling illiberalism
05:57 Trumpism’s setback and limits of transatlantic populism
09:13 Plans to unite European right fall through
11:05 Meloni’s pragmatic model
13:25 Divergent paths of Europe’s nationalist right
15:59 How Russian aggression and U.S. unpredictability drive pro-EU sentiments
19:38 Reviving Central European cooperation
24:33 Ukraine in Central and Eastern Europe’s future
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